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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 8:26:04 GMT -5
I have never met Ayumi IRL like Sarah, but through some cycles together, I know she's not a b!tch and reading your confessional, as a friend, I found unfair for her. .So I decided to put on some words to tell how unreasonable you are. First of all, she DID not ruin the past two seasons. . What's fun when everybody is just quiet and faking to be nice with each other? BB, she didn't suck as much as you do. I can't believe I even liked you before. How can she is the worst thing that's happened to this competition? She did amazing!!!! She brings PERSONALITY to this competition. Seriously honey? Let's me see, you also pretend to be a movie star (Emmy) that I have never heard of and decides to get all up in our faces? SERIOUSLY! SHUT UP! Ayumi is Japanese breakthrough pop star icon! You don't know her, it's your lost, not hers. Do you also have a problem with me playing Ruby Lin, who you have NEVER heard of ? Cuz I have never heard about you too bb Fake apology sounds so nice. And again, I still don't know who's Emmy so not real celebrity for me. Sarah and Ayumi is friend IRL bb. Don't be mad when people has true friendship which I assume you have NONE. please, GIVE ME A BREAK! What's wrong with you helping your friends to get a better photo? It called alliance, helping and caring. Which you also have NONE. Don't think everybody is bad as you. We don't need to "think", we KNOW you're a b!tch. I was playing last season too and I have to agree with Ayumi. He was a biased judge and we didn't have our voice for nothing. If you already know this, why consume Ayumi being a b!tch is wrong? Just give you a little things of my mind Also, you did a great job as pretending to be the victim when you're obviously a b!tch and also sabotage other girl. BRAVO !!!!!!! Nice act Don't mess with me and my friends
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Mar 3, 2012 10:52:30 GMT -5
Ahem. First of all, you're going to say you've never heard of Emmy. Might I ask where you live? Oh right, Southeast Asia. A place where some American actresses aren't that known, such as Emmy. Seriously, have you ever even heard of Mystic River or the recent film adaptation of Phantom of the Opera? Didn't think so. The reason why Ayumi is famous to you but Emmy isn't is because you're from the region of the world where Ayumi IS famous. Emmy is known in America AND in Europe. Not just Asia like Ayumi. Second of all, Emmy is MY friend, and saying she doesn't have any friends only makes you look like an idiot. Look at Miley's post in sequester. Her "#teamemmyforlife" post. What does that tell you? Thirdly, I have NO CLUE why you think Emmy is the villain here. She made a SWITCH as PER THE RULES to break apart the strongest pair. She wanted to EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD, not sabotage anyone. It so happens that Miley and Troian didn't get along, which was not the intended result, and thankfully they didn't get eliminated - you did. Fourth off, you don't seem to understand some of the things Emmy is saying. You think that since Alex/Troian was not a good judge, he should constantly be harassed by the others in the series? I've moved WAY past that. I am an ADULT. I don't go out of my way to attack people, unless they attack me or MY FRIENDS unnecessarily like this. Troian did not deserve the crap she did, and that was all a result of the immaturity of other people and being unable to let the past go. I thought he was a bad judge, but not a bad person. You seem to think that bad judges are bad people. Troian was actually nice, even with the temper tantrum, but that happens too. I did not like how a LOT of people were behaving, and I kept my mouth shut. As a judge, it's not my job to interfere, but as this season is over... I can speak my mind. All you're doing is making yourself out to be a bitch yourself. Emmy does NOT deserve all of this flack. She got made out to be the villain for NO REASON. I don't get it. Back off of my friend, Miss Ruby and Sapphire. Else you're going to be in for an even bigger evisceration than this.
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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 11:22:45 GMT -5
That's exactly what I was talking about at the front row. When somebody attacking your friends, you will get mad. You're allowed to get mad, why can't I?
Maybe what Emmy said isn't hurtful to you since you're on her side but it's hurtful for people on Ayumi side. Just like what I said here.
So it's a draw. I don't care if I go for bigger punishment or whatever. If that's what I get for pointing the truth, I'll take it.
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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 11:26:07 GMT -5
Also, just to be clear, Ayumi is also does NOT deserve all of this flack. She got made out to be the villain for NO REASON. I don't get it, too.
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Mar 3, 2012 11:35:07 GMT -5
So... Ayumi should be allowed to bully Troian? Doesn't Troian have a friend that should stand up?
That's the biggest issue I take here. Troian was starting fresh, and only made enemies because people couldn't get over the past. I sent a nice apology/clarification to Troian, because even though he was not a good judge... he didn't deserve all the hate.
Ayumi acted as an aggressor, and Emmy responded to it. Ayumi may be your friend, but it's hard to not admit that she - the character - was a bitch. Emmy had every right to react the way she did - after all, Ayumi only got so enraged at Emmy for doing something that was part of the game. Emmy just reacted to it.
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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 11:43:20 GMT -5
And I only react to Emmy. I didnt like Ayumi (as Gemma) at cycle 7 at first because I also think she was a b!tch. But when I started talking to her, she's really nice. She said to me she's really hurtful because what Emmy wrote in her confessional pages and pages. She's also a human being. Emmy hurts her feelings a lot because Ayumi was never a b!tch. And like Emmy said, it wasn't America's Next Top Bestfriend, so what's wrong bringing heat and personality to the competition. It's just my opinion anyway. You and I are only the same, we protect your friends. I have never hated Emmy before, as you've seen, I even cheered for her. But reading her confessional is just a disappointment.
I always love some personality in the competition. Ayumi is a funny b!tch, which was only say b!tchy thing for fun. But guess no one got sense of humor here. A funny b!tch is different from a real b!tch.
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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 12:15:18 GMT -5
Anyway, I don't wanna fight with you Amanda. I love you so it's useless for us to fight.
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Mar 3, 2012 12:19:34 GMT -5
Best way to avoid arguing with me is to back off of my friends. I'm done with this, but be prepared to deal with Emmy soon. Just saying
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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 12:24:16 GMT -5
Back off of my friends, too . Haha, if she is a judge and she let all of this in the way of judging, I'm sure I'm on Ayumi side for cycle 11. Just saying though.
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Post by Emmy Rossum on Mar 3, 2012 13:39:39 GMT -5
Ah. Well, I had a feeling this would be coming when the confessionals were opened up.
I'm not particularly interested in fighting, because to be honest I seriously doubt that that's what Ayumi wants either, but I do think I ought to address this.
Did I overreact and say things about Ayumi that were probably about nine times meaner than they ever needed to be? Yes, absolutely. I was playing a character, and my character was a bitch. One bitch character ran into another, and that was that.
And that would be fine and dandy if last cycle hadn't been dragged into it. Fair enough. I do think that Ayumi's judging style significantly decreased the amount of fun that people had last season, based on several conversations that people had with me. I tried repeatedly to try and tone things down, and to keep things from escalating into full-blown conflicts between judges and players, but several players felt that the standards were set far too high and all anybody got for their efforts was an overdose of criticism. In fact, that's why I decided not to judge this cycle.
Now, that being said, I will admit that I should have said something to Ayumi personally as opposed to griping about it in my confessional. That was immature of me, and in the future I will make sure to discuss any issues that contestants have with the judging style in an appropriate venue. At the time, I was reacting to what I perceived was Ayumi attempting to take out Troian for previous-season grudges, which to me seemed like a blatantly terrible thing to do for all of the reasons I explained in that confessional. Ayumi has since said that she didn't know who Troian was, so it turns out I was wrong. It was an error in judgement, and I will openly admit that I crossed the line, and I'm sorry that Ayumi was hurt by that.
Now, regarding your post, I'm not interested in starting a fight with you, but you did ask for a response, so here ya go.
I brought personality as well. Yet you don't like me, and have spent a lot of time telling me I'm a bitch. So is it okay to dislike negative personality?
You've said that I've said hurtful things, and that's why I'm the villain, because I hurt Ayumi's feelings. Saying I have no friends is a pretty personal attack, as is repeatedly calling me a "b!tch." Why is it okay for you to say these things and not me?
I had a number of friends in this game. I never once attempted to help them, and they didn't help me. It's not that I didn't care about them, it's that I feel like my friends are good enough to succeed without my help, and I believe that they respected me enough to assume likewise.
That's an interesting accusation. Who did I sabotage, again?
To be honest, Selena, I'm incredibly confused as to why it is that me being a bitch in my confessional is so much worse than Ayumi acting like a bitch. I certainly did it for laughs more than anything, and the only time I ever crossed the line into a remotely personal attack was when I felt that that line had already been crossed, and things had already been made personal.
Even then, I said what I said in defense of a friend, who I felt had been unfairly attacked. As I see it, you are attacking me for doing the exact same thing that Ayumi did, and the exact same thing that you are currently doing. All three of us acted in defense of a friend, regardless of circumstances.
I'm not judging next season, but for the record, I've never let anything get in the way of my judging. People I dislike have gotten great rankings, and my favorite players have gotten dead last, depending how good their photos are.
There, that essay being finished, hopefully we can bring this out to some sort of peaceful resolution. Goodness knows we've had more than enough drama around here.
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Post by Ayumi Hamasaki on Mar 3, 2012 17:47:54 GMT -5
I'm going to be brutally honest. If people can't handle someone critiquing their ability to choose good pictures, and their knowledge of the fashion industry, why play a game which allows people to do so?
And yes, I would've been considerably less offended if last cycle wasn't brought into it. It became more of an attack on me personally rather than just bitching about Ayumi's defending of Sarah, and blind hate of Troian (which was all derived from her lack of good portfolio, me being paired up with her, her getting called better than me on smile, etc). I was having fun until I discovered, via Sarah, of course, that everybody hated me, not only that, it seemed they hated me personally at that, and again, not only that, people who I considered friends were actively agreeing with it. It hurt. It hurt a lot.
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Post by Ruby Lin on Mar 3, 2012 22:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by Emmy Rossum on Mar 4, 2012 4:48:10 GMT -5
*shrug*
No worries, Ruby, I wasn't offended. As I said before, all of us did what we did in defense of friends, so I don't see the point in getting mad at you for doing what I did myself.
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Post by Kate Beckinsale on Mar 4, 2012 8:20:06 GMT -5
I'm going to be brutally honest. If people can't handle someone critiquing their ability to choose good pictures, and their knowledge of the fashion industry, why play a game which allows people to do so? And yes, I would've been considerably less offended if last cycle wasn't brought into it. It became more of an attack on me personally rather than just bitching about Ayumi's defending of Sarah, and blind hate of Troian (which was all derived from her lack of good portfolio, me being paired up with her, her getting called better than me on smile, etc). I was having fun until I discovered, via Sarah, of course, that everybody hated me, not only that, it seemed they hated me personally at that, and again, not only that, people who I considered friends were actively agreeing with it. It hurt. It hurt a lot. I didn't, don't hate you
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Mar 4, 2012 9:44:36 GMT -5
Ayu, I don't hate you either. But I do find it petty that you blocked me on AIM.
Just saying. I enjoy talking to you. It's just that you sometimes need to see where someone else is coming from. I used to be the same way, actually...
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